Trial Lawyers College

Justice in CHOP with Evan Oshan

Seattle lawyer, Evan Oshan, joins Rafe Foreman to explore his groundbreaking negligence suit against the City of Seattle over the CHOP Zone—where two Black youths were shot, one fatally, amid an “off-limits” protest precinct. Learn how municipal leaders’ decision to abandon public safety unleashed chaos, spoliated evidence, and left victims without help, and why Oshan refuses to let this miscarriage of justice go unchallenged. From breaking through governmental immunity to honoring his client’s plea for trial, discover what it takes to fight fearlessly for truth and accountability when civic duty fails.
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Harnessing Focus with Elizabeth Larrick

What if an outside perspective could help unlock the story of your case? In this episode, trial consultant Elizabeth Larrick joins Rafe Foreman to explore how targeted focus groups, smart vocabulary lists, and role-reversal exercises help you fine-tune your themes, spot blind spots, and connect with jurors. Whether you’re prepping for depositions, voir dire, or opening statements, learn why staying curious—and leaning on you community —can transform your trial strategy and keep your edge sharp.Listen Now

Beyond Survival with Lindsay Ford

Join Rafe Foreman as he welcomes life care planning specialist Lindsey Ford to explore how physician-authored life care plans forecast and quantify the future medical and support needs of injured individuals. Lindsey explains the methodology behind assessing long-term care—from rehabilitative therapies and mental health support to household services and loss of earning capacity—and how these projections guide attorneys in securing fair compensation. Discover why detailed, personalized life care plans are essential tools for advocating quality of life after catastrophic injury.
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Storytelling and Service with John Charles Hardin

Rafe Foreman sits down with master storyteller, John Charles Hardin, to reflect on decades of trial work, the enduring bond forged through shared experiences, and the transformative impact of Trial Lawyers College. They discuss how genuine storytelling—grounded in truth and empathy—shapes every aspect of jury work, from voir dire to closing arguments. John emphasizes the importance of listening, humility, and role-reversal to connect with jurors and honor their oath. Throughout, they celebrate the lifelong journey of practicing law, the thrill of fighting for justice, and the power of authentic human connection in the courtroom.
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Discovering the Why with Brecken Wagner

Brecken Wagner—TLC ’16 and new faculty member—joins Ray Foreman to announce the extended June 23 deadline for the flagship three-week college and discuss Oklahoma’s surprising shift back toward felony DUI statutes. As a criminal defense attorney, Brecken shares how he’s navigating legislative changes, preparing for upcoming trials, and harnessing TLC’s storytelling techniques to connect jurors with his clients’ real-life experiences. Tune in for practical insights on choosing the right narrative, “discovering the why” behind your facts, and using silence and empathy to make your story resonate.
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From Psychodrama to Verdict with Amy Rogers, Sean Dormer, and Tim Garvey

Sean Dormer, Tim Garvey, and Amy Rogers discuss how Trial Lawyers College techniques helped them secure a $4 million verdict in a wrongful-death case where a young man died by suicide in jail after his pleas for help were ignored. They explain how psychodrama and empathy exercises guided their opening statements, jury selection, and scene-setting to connect the jury with Jackson’s story and reveal the jail staff’s negligence. By “showing them yours” and using authentic, emotion-driven advocacy, they turned a tragic loss into a powerful example of why caring truly is contagious.Listen Now

Scene-Setting/Self-Defense: Translating Psychodrama into Trial Tactics Adam Oakey

Adam Oakey, owner of the Law Office of Adam Oakey in Albuquerque, NM, discusses his TLC journey—from Trial Skills Foundation to “Courage to Ask”—and why he’s applied for the flagship three-week college. He explains how psychodrama transformed his approach to client connection, personal growth, and scene-setting: techniques he’s gearing up to use in a self-defense road-rage trial where his 20-year-old client faced off against armed security guards. Join us for practical insights on translating TLC’s methods—listening exercises, role reversal, and immersive scene-setting—into courtroom strategy, and learn why caring  and authenticity can make all the difference in securing justice.
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Support The Locals with Suzanne Mindlin

Suzie Mindlin, a 2002 TLC graduate from California, highlights the power of working on your own cases alongside peers at the three-week college and in local working groups—vibrant hubs that have flourished into engines for justice across the U.S. She welcomes lawyers new to TLC training, emphasizing how these collaborative forums foster rapid skill development and mutual support. Suzie also dives into the art of scene setting, explaining why the protagonist must be fully “there” and how transporting jurors into that precise moment—down to every detail—creates an immersive experience that makes your story resonate and stick.
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The “Currency” of the Courtroom with Render Freeman

Render C. Freeman—2015 TLC graduate and faculty member since 2018—reflects on his fourth “Courage to Ask” program, where a psychodrama exercise helped participants uncover how personal biases and family history influence the dollar values they assign to cases. He explains why “emotion is the currency of the courtroom” and how psychodramatic tools heighten lawyers’ emotional competence—from depositions and mediations to cross-examination and closing arguments. Render also previews the upcoming three-week flagship course at Camp Dawson, WV (Oct 4–27; apply by May 6), where attendees immerse themselves in psychodrama, “discovering the story,” jury selection, and all core trial skills.
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Immersive Advocacy: Colby Vokey on the 3 Week Trial Lawyers College

Colby Vokey previews the upcoming 3-Week College flagship program at Camp Dawson, WV (Oct. 4–27; apply by May 6), and explains why it’s a game changer for trial lawyers. Learn how the intensive psychodrama kickoff and the “discovering the story” method sharpen listening, cross-examination, and narrative skills—transforming both your practice and your personal confidence. Join Colby for insights on why going “all in” for three weeks will reset your approach to every case.Listen Now

Deep Trust with Amanda Harber

Amanda Harber—a 2017 Trial Lawyers College graduate, F Warrior board president, and former public defender—previews the “In Defense of the Damned” seminar (June 9–13 at IU Maurer Law). She walks us through the week’s psychodrama kickoff, powerful listening exercises that deepen attorney–client trust, and a master-class on cross-examination featuring exonerees like Darryl Burton. Amanda also highlights how TLC builds fellowship among often-isolated criminal defense attorneys, and shares updates on the F Warriors board, strategic planning, and opportunities to get involved.
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Indigent Representation with Stephen Demik

Stephen Demik, a 2008 TLC graduate and co-lead for the upcoming Indigent Representation online course, unveils the agenda and shines a spotlight on the often underrated art of direct examination—likening its neglect to working with only half your muscles. With just 20 seats available, participants will receive intensely detailed, hands-on training in real time. Don’t miss this opportunity to refine your TLC techniques under expert guidance and transform your courtroom impact.
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Fellowship with Eric Davis

Eric Davis, co-lead for Defense of the Damned at Indiana University - Maurer School of Law and a board member of the Trial Lawyers College, sheds light on the challenges of practicing criminal defense in death penalty cases. Eric explains how the upcoming course focuses on the art of cross-examination and how TLC offers a rare space for transparency and fellowship among defense lawyers who often work in isolation. He also explores the role of psychodrama in enhancing trial skills, emphasizing that the supportive community at TLC empowers practitioners to navigate even the toughest cases.
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3 Week College with Ron and Paula Estefan

Ron Estefan, a member of the Trial Lawyers College Board of Directors, along with Paula Estefan, introduces the upcoming 3-Week College program set for October at Camp Dawson, West Virginia. This immersive training retreat offers individual rooms and bathrooms, provided meals, and a host of activities including rock climbing, biking, golfing, and zip lining. They discuss the importance of this intensive program for enhancing trial skills, personal practice, relationships, and overall life, urging participants to "go all in" to fully benefit from this unique educational experience.

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Human Connections with Jessica McLaughlin and Brett Dunn

Marines Jessica McLaughlin and Brett Dunn gear up for an upcoming trial while attending the week-long Trial Skills Foundation Course at Mo Ranch. In this episode, they compare and contrast the nuances of civilian and military court trials, discussing the strategic importance of understanding witnesses' mindsets through TLC techniques. Jessica and Brett emphasize the need to balance rigorous trial preparation with the flexibility to bring a human touch to their proceedings, ensuring that both direct examinations and cross-examinations are effectively informed and shaped by these insights.
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A Different Person with Scott McCann

Scott McCann, a first-time student at the Trial Skills Foundation with TLC, describes his first experience with psychodrama as a protagonist. In this episode, Scott discusses how the process of role reversal and exploring diverse perspectives enriches his understanding of jury dynamics. He delves into how facts, experiences, and varied viewpoints shape juror perceptions and influence their interpretations of case facts, highlighting the transformative power of psychodrama in legal training.
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Quick Vulnerability with Allison Mahoney

Allison Mahoney, a first-time attendee at the Trial Skills Foundation Course at Mo Ranch, shares her initial impressions of the Trial Lawyers College and her experiences with psychodrama. In this episode, Allison discusses the rapid pace of the course that uniquely facilitates vulnerability and trust among participants, crucial for deep connections. She also delves into the importance of truly connecting with clients to effectively tell their stories by painting a complete picture of their lives, emphasizing how this approach can transform legal advocacy.
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Constant Advocacy with Patrick McLain

Patrick McLain, a 2012 TLC graduate, shares his journey through a challenging three-year-long sexual assault case that recently ended in dismissal. In this episode, Patrick recounts specific instances where employing TLC tactics in court led to both setbacks and successes. He provides a candid look at what it means to be on your feet, advocating fiercely in the courtroom, and the lessons learned from when things don’t go as planned and when they triumphantly succeed.

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Challenging Spaces with Ron Estefan

Ron Estefan, Vice President of the Trial Lawyers College Board of Directors and a 2005 TLC graduate, shares insights from his recent victory in a premises negligence case. This episode dives into how Ron applied TLC methods to navigate lacking conditions and restrictive courtroom environments effectively. Emphasizing a proactive approach, Ron discusses the strategy of "Don't ask, just do," waiting for intervention from opposing counsel or the judge rather than seeking permission. He also gives a brief overview of a powerful listening exercise used in his practice.
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The Courage to Ask with Maren Chaloupka and John Sloan

Maren Chaloupka, the current TLC president, and John Sloan, her predecessor, delve into the nuanced TLC approach to advocating for fair compensation in legal settlements and verdicts taught at The Courage to Ask TLC event. They explore the critical process of determining an appropriate sum for clients and discuss the complexities involved in assigning monetary value to invaluable losses. This episode examines the inherent challenges of asking for financial compensation in cases where life is priceless, within our imperfect legal system, emphasizing the need for conviction and strategy in the courtroom.
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Dirty Hands with Eric Ganci

Eric Ganci, TLC staff member since 2018, discusses a unique blend of techniques he uses to enhance focus and grounding. In a memorable cross examination session, Eric had a student reverse roles with a client, immersing them fully in the courtroom scenario. Listen as Eric details his experience with working and practicing skills through TLC methods.

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Authentic with Patricia Anderson

Patricia Anderson provides a comprehensive overview of the Trial Lawyers College's 7-step program, an alternative pathway to graduation. This episode delves into the specifics of the program, outlining the importance and objectives of each step. Patricia explains how these steps are designed to enhance the skills of trial lawyers through personal growth and skill development, ensuring they are well-equipped to advocate with empathy and effectiveness. Tune in to gain insights into this transformative educational journey.
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Honor the Loss with Ross LeBlanc

Learn how Ross, a civil plaintiff attorney and four-time regional TLC attendee, used his trial skills to secure justice in a devastating DWI case involving the loss of a six-year-old child after Thanksgiving 2022. This episode delves into how Ross prepared for the trial alongside the grieving parents, employing the powerful techniques and strategies he honed through his TLC training. Tune in to discover the profound impact of empathetic legal practice and the difference it can make in seeking accountability and closure.
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Trial Skills Foundation at Mo Ranch with Ron Estefan

Ron and Rafe revisit their enriching experiences at Mo Ranch during the TSF course, where they collaborated on cases and refined their trial skills. In this episode, they delve into the highlights of their time together, emphasizing the fantastic opportunities for growth and learning. They also explore the concept of psychodrama, discussing how it enhances the practice of law by demonstrating the truth, rather than just telling it. Tune in to hear how these seasoned professionals use innovative techniques to elevate their legal expertise.
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Share The Gift with Rafe Foreman

Join our host, Mark Wagner, as he interviews Rafe Foreman, who shares a moving story from a recent mediation. Rafe recounts how a heartfelt song about grace and forgiveness, sung by his clients, profoundly impacted both him and the opposing counsel. The defendants were so touched that they insisted on joining and listening to the song again, leading to a rare and emotional moment of unity. Tune in to explore the power of empathy and the unexpected ways it can manifest in legal settings.

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Thriving with John Sloan

John Sloan, the Immediate Past President of TLC, reflects on his pivotal decision to step down and pass the leadership baton. In this heartfelt episode, John discusses the complexities of transitioning from a role he has cherished and how he plans to continue thriving in new endeavors rather than retiring. Tune in to hear John's insights on leadership, change, and the future of TLC under new guidance
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Legacy and Strategic Plan with John Sloan and the TLC Board

Join John Sloan, Maren Chaloupka, Laura O'Sullivan, and Ron Estefan for some exciting new announcements regarding the TLC board. Listen to hear the legacy and strategic plan for the future of the Trial Lawyers College.
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The Jury's Assistant with Mark Wagner

Mark Wagner, a 2005 TLC graduate and 2015 faculty member from Washington, shares valuable insights on achieving impactful verdicts and the art of being the jury's assistant. In this episode, explore the strategies that lead to significant "not guilty" verdicts and understand how positioning oneself as an ally and guide for the jury can influence the outcome of a trial. Tune in to hear firsthand experiences and practical advice on nurturing trust and credibility in the courtroom.
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